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A block of mass m= 3 kg is initially at rest on a horizontal surface. At time t=0, we begin pushing on it with a horizontal for...Asked by FHD
A block of mass m=2 kg is initially at rest on a horizontal surface. At time t=0, we begin pushing on it with a horizontal force that varies with time as F(t)=Beta t^2, where Beta = 1.0 N/s^2. We stop pushing at time t1, 5s [F(t)=0 for t>1].
(a) First, assume the surface is frictionless. What is the magnitude of the final momentum at t1=5s?
P final(t=t1)=
(b) lets now consider a new situation where the object is initially at rest on a rough surface. The coefficient of static friction is 0.2. What is the speed of the block at time t2=5s?
v(t=t2)=
(c) What is the power P provided by the force F(t) at time t3=4s (in Watts) i the case where there is friction (part(b))?
P(t=t3)=
Question No. 2 any ideas.
(a) First, assume the surface is frictionless. What is the magnitude of the final momentum at t1=5s?
P final(t=t1)=
(b) lets now consider a new situation where the object is initially at rest on a rough surface. The coefficient of static friction is 0.2. What is the speed of the block at time t2=5s?
v(t=t2)=
(c) What is the power P provided by the force F(t) at time t3=4s (in Watts) i the case where there is friction (part(b))?
P(t=t3)=
Question No. 2 any ideas.
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Answered by
elli
for a: 41.67
Answered by
elli
for b:
F - f_k = ma
F - f_k = mdv/dt
(F - f_k)dt = mdv
∫(F - f_k)dt = ∫mdv
mv_f - mv_i = (β/3)(t_f)^3 - (f_k)t_f - [(β/3)(t_i)^3 - (f_k)t_i] [Note: v_i = 0 and t_i = 0]
mv_f = (β/3)(t_f)^3 - (f_k)t_f
v_f ≅ 10.83, but that's not the answer, so any suggeston any one???
F - f_k = ma
F - f_k = mdv/dt
(F - f_k)dt = mdv
∫(F - f_k)dt = ∫mdv
mv_f - mv_i = (β/3)(t_f)^3 - (f_k)t_f - [(β/3)(t_i)^3 - (f_k)t_i] [Note: v_i = 0 and t_i = 0]
mv_f = (β/3)(t_f)^3 - (f_k)t_f
v_f ≅ 10.83, but that's not the answer, so any suggeston any one???
Answered by
Daoine
Are you sure about a?
Answered by
Mets
ellie, Thanks. I thought this is the most difficult question. I had trouble with these type of problems throughout the course. I do not have any suggestions. at this point.
Answered by
Daoine
I did pretty much the same of what you're showing and I got a) 25, b) 2.5 and c) 0.64 I haven't check it yet because it is my last submission and I want to be sure.
Answered by
Daoine
guys a is 25 for sure
Answered by
elli
have you check your data, because for a got a green mark, so A is ok, but b and c were not. There might be some where m = 3 and beta=1.2
Answered by
Mets
For question 5 ballistic missile m1= 5*10^24kg; r1=6000km; m2<<m1; alpha=30 degrees; r2=(5/2)r1=15000; G=6.674*10^-11. What is the initial speed of the projectile? My solution:
Vo^2=g*range/sin(theta)
Vo^2=6.674*10^-11*(r1+r2/sin30degrees)
Vo^2=(6.674*10^-11)*(21000/0.5)
Vo^2=0.00000280308
Vo=sqrt(0.00000280308)
Vo=0.00167424
Is this done correctly. Thanks for all your help.
Vo^2=g*range/sin(theta)
Vo^2=6.674*10^-11*(r1+r2/sin30degrees)
Vo^2=(6.674*10^-11)*(21000/0.5)
Vo^2=0.00000280308
Vo=sqrt(0.00000280308)
Vo=0.00167424
Is this done correctly. Thanks for all your help.
Answered by
elli
so, no more suggestions for b and c of initial question? and Mets, check the videos from week 13.
Answered by
Tanero
Guys, please, can you show how you got 25 for a, because I got 41.6 as elli did. For b) my answer is same as ellis too. For c) I used formula for instantaneous power P=FV . So you just need to find values of F and V at t=4 and plug it in there.
Answered by
Anonymous
there is different m & beta... no wonder if daoine get 25 for a. who has the formula for b & c?
Answered by
rickross
q1 a)
F = dp/dt
dp = Fdt
∫dp = ∫Fdt
p_f - p_i = ∫βt²dt
p_f - 0 = (β/3)(t_f)^3 - (β/3)(t_i)^3
no idea for part b) and c) any help ???
F = dp/dt
dp = Fdt
∫dp = ∫Fdt
p_f - p_i = ∫βt²dt
p_f - 0 = (β/3)(t_f)^3 - (β/3)(t_i)^3
no idea for part b) and c) any help ???
Answered by
Greco
rickross, your solutions for a=41.6 which is comes in contrariety, to a=25.is it surerly right??
Answered by
rickross
that's is grt formula i got it correct using that formula!
hai Greco help for q8?
hai Greco help for q8?
Answered by
Greco
rickross still working on it i ll have it soon..
Answered by
rickross
k thanks did u got q1) b ? and c? and if u got it help m ???
Answered by
Anonymous
Anyone can explain the rocket question and the doppler shift question? I got half of each question correct and don't know how to move on.
Answered by
elli
answers depend on the values we have
so, for A
F = dp/dt -> dp = Fdt
∫dp = ∫Fdt
p_f - p_i = ∫βt²dt
p_f - 0 = (β/3)(t_f)^3 - (β/3)(t_i)^3
for b:
F - fk = m.a
F - fk = m.dv/dt
(F - fk)dt = m.dv
∫(F - f_k)dt = ∫m.dv
m.vf - m.vi = (β/3)(tf)^3 - (fk)tf - [(β/3)(ti)^3 - (fk)ti] [Note: v_i = 0 and t_i = 0]
m.vf = (β/3)(tf)^3 - (fk)tf
for C) well, I guess we find vf for t=4 as in b, and then
P=W/t -> (1/2m.vf^2)/t
and for m=2 and β=1,
A) 41.67
B) like said before, I got 10.83 but it wasn't the right answer HELP!!!
so, for A
F = dp/dt -> dp = Fdt
∫dp = ∫Fdt
p_f - p_i = ∫βt²dt
p_f - 0 = (β/3)(t_f)^3 - (β/3)(t_i)^3
for b:
F - fk = m.a
F - fk = m.dv/dt
(F - fk)dt = m.dv
∫(F - f_k)dt = ∫m.dv
m.vf - m.vi = (β/3)(tf)^3 - (fk)tf - [(β/3)(ti)^3 - (fk)ti] [Note: v_i = 0 and t_i = 0]
m.vf = (β/3)(tf)^3 - (fk)tf
for C) well, I guess we find vf for t=4 as in b, and then
P=W/t -> (1/2m.vf^2)/t
and for m=2 and β=1,
A) 41.67
B) like said before, I got 10.83 but it wasn't the right answer HELP!!!
Answered by
Just_One
For part A this is what I did and I got 20 for me and validated 25 for some of you.
F=ma
a=F/m
Because this is not constant acceleration V=at^2. Do not divide by 2! Then P=mv which result in 25 for some of you and 20 for me.
F=ma
a=F/m
Because this is not constant acceleration V=at^2. Do not divide by 2! Then P=mv which result in 25 for some of you and 20 for me.
Answered by
Just_One
Look at this however I am confused about the t^3. I know that is comes from integration but not sure of why the integration if the F(t)Bt^2 is supposed to describe you non linear force in function of a.
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Answered by
fima
from ELLI A its right, but just found;
b) p=m*v, so
v(t)=(integral Ff(t) from (the point where it starts to move) to t) /m
the point where it starts to move:
beta*t^2-m*g*mu=0
t=sqrt(m*g*mu/beta)
v(5)=[beta/3*5^3-m*g*mu*5-beta/3*sqrt(m*g*mu/beta)^3+m*g*mu*sqrt(m*g*mu/beta)]/m
----------------------
c) P=F(4)*v(4)
take F(t)=beta*t^2 and v(4) like in part b)
beta=1 and m=2, uo=0.2
B) vf=5.33
C) P=??
b) p=m*v, so
v(t)=(integral Ff(t) from (the point where it starts to move) to t) /m
the point where it starts to move:
beta*t^2-m*g*mu=0
t=sqrt(m*g*mu/beta)
v(5)=[beta/3*5^3-m*g*mu*5-beta/3*sqrt(m*g*mu/beta)^3+m*g*mu*sqrt(m*g*mu/beta)]/m
----------------------
c) P=F(4)*v(4)
take F(t)=beta*t^2 and v(4) like in part b)
beta=1 and m=2, uo=0.2
B) vf=5.33
C) P=??
Answered by
Just_One
I got 6.99 for part B. F=.8 and m=3. Would you please verify. Part A for me is 33.33
Thanks.
Thanks.
Answered by
Just_One
Power should be the difference in KE when start moving and t final divided by time. Since KE and Power have the same unit and watts is a unit in function of time that is why you need to take the time interval of motion.
Answered by
fima
I got those new equations from
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But I'm not sure about those, I'm still waiting for someone to confirm.... any
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But I'm not sure about those, I'm still waiting for someone to confirm.... any
Answered by
Anoninho
@Fima
Hello fima... it seems to be the right equation, you see... The force only starts to push the block when it "wins" the Friction Force (Ff). So, its only after 2 seconds has passed. Using your numbers: Ff = m*g*mu = 2*10*0.2 = 4N... F=bt^2 = 1 * (2)^2=4N... So right after 2 seconds, F wins Ff, and the object starts to move on. So, you must integrate from 2 to 5 (question B, and 0 to 4 at C)... You would have:
Fnet = ma
Fnet = mdv/dt
Fnet*dt = mdv, integrating from 2 to 5
Fnet*(t_1-t_0)=mv_1 - mv_0
Fnet*t_1 - Fnet*t_0=mv_1 - mv_0
Fnet = F - Ff and v_0 = 0
(F - Ff)*t_1 - (F - Ff)*t_0 = mv_1
F*t_1 - Ff*t_1 - F*t_0 + Ff*t_0 = mv_1
Changing F =b*t^2, and Ff= m*g*mu
v_1 = [(b/3)*t_1^3 - m*g*mu*t_1 - (b/3)*t_0^3 + m*g*mu*t_0]/m
Putting values in:
v_1 = [(1/3)*5^3 - 2*10*0.2*5 - (1/3)*2^3 + 2*10*0.2*2]/2
v_1 = 27/2 = 13.5 m/s. As far as I can tell. Don't know exactly how you got 5.33, did I do something wrong?
Hello fima... it seems to be the right equation, you see... The force only starts to push the block when it "wins" the Friction Force (Ff). So, its only after 2 seconds has passed. Using your numbers: Ff = m*g*mu = 2*10*0.2 = 4N... F=bt^2 = 1 * (2)^2=4N... So right after 2 seconds, F wins Ff, and the object starts to move on. So, you must integrate from 2 to 5 (question B, and 0 to 4 at C)... You would have:
Fnet = ma
Fnet = mdv/dt
Fnet*dt = mdv, integrating from 2 to 5
Fnet*(t_1-t_0)=mv_1 - mv_0
Fnet*t_1 - Fnet*t_0=mv_1 - mv_0
Fnet = F - Ff and v_0 = 0
(F - Ff)*t_1 - (F - Ff)*t_0 = mv_1
F*t_1 - Ff*t_1 - F*t_0 + Ff*t_0 = mv_1
Changing F =b*t^2, and Ff= m*g*mu
v_1 = [(b/3)*t_1^3 - m*g*mu*t_1 - (b/3)*t_0^3 + m*g*mu*t_0]/m
Putting values in:
v_1 = [(1/3)*5^3 - 2*10*0.2*5 - (1/3)*2^3 + 2*10*0.2*2]/2
v_1 = 27/2 = 13.5 m/s. As far as I can tell. Don't know exactly how you got 5.33, did I do something wrong?
Answered by
Anoninho
@Fima,
You've said:
B) vf=5.33
But this v_f is only for t=4, that used at question C, at question B is used t=5. Check it out.
You've said:
B) vf=5.33
But this v_f is only for t=4, that used at question C, at question B is used t=5. Check it out.
Answered by
fima
Thanks, That is v(4) for the next questions, but the procedure is correct
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