Asked by Sarah

I have to find y' if ln(xy) = x + y.

Where do I start? I'm not sure what to do with that ln(xy)

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Answered by Raf
What you do with ln(xy) is just separate it into 2 pieces: ln(x) + ln(y)


ln(x) + ln(y) = 1 + y'
1/x + y'/y = 1 + y'
1/x - 1 = y' (1 - y)
Answered by Steve
use the chain rule on the left:
d/dx(ln(u)) = 1/u du/dx
u = xy, so
du/dx = dx/dx*y + x*dy/dx = y + xy'

now plug and chug:

1/(xy) * (y + xy') = 1 + y'
y/xy + xy'/xy = 1 + y'
1/x + y'/y = 1 + y'
y'(1/y - 1) = 1 - 1/x
or
y' * (1-y)/y = (x-1)/x
y' = y(x-1)/[x(1-y)]
Answered by Sarah
So then that could be moved around, and it would be (1-x)/(x-xy) ?
Answered by Sarah
Oh geez two different answers.
Answered by Steve
That's right. Do you see where Raf left out the 1/y?

ln(x) + ln(y) = 1 + y'
1/x + y'/y = 1 + y'
1/x - 1 = y' (1 - <b>1/y</b>)
Answered by Raf
tnx for the correction Steve, my bad Sarah
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