Asked by xavier
Find the equation of a circle passing through (3,7) and tangent to the lines x-3y+8=0 and y=3x.
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Answered by
Reiny
let the centre be C(a,b)
then the distance from C to x-3y+8 = 0 is
|a - 3b+8|/√10
then the distance from C to 3x-y=0 is
|3a - b|/√10
so 3a-b = a-3b + 8 or 3a-b = -a + 3b - 8
2a + 2b = 8 or 4a - 4b = -8
a + b = 4 or or a - b = -2
let's use a-b=-2 or b = a+2 , more reasonable from my sketch
also radius = √(a-3)^2 + (b-7)^2
so
(3a-b)/√10 = √(a-3)^2 + (b-7)^2
square both sides:
(3a - b)^2 /10 = (a-3)^2 + (b-7)^2
but b = a+2
((3a - a-2)^2) /10 = (a-3)^2 + (a-5)^2
4a^2 - 8a + 4 = 10(a^2 - 6a + 9 + a^2 - 10a + 25)
4a^2 - 8a + 4 = 20a^2 - 160a + 340
16a^2 - 152a + 336 = 0
2a^2 - 19a + 42 = 0
(a-6)(2a-7) = 0
a = 6 or a = 7/2
b = 8 or b = 11/2
so we have to possible centres (6,8) and (3.5 , 5.5)
each one must be below y = 3x and above x-3y+8=0
or y < 3x and y > (x+8)/3
(a quick arithmetic check shows both are possible)
I will use the (6,8)
so a possible equation is
(x-6)^2 + (y-8)^2 = r^2
but (3,7) lies on it, so
(-3)^2 + (-1)^2 = r^2 = 10
(x-6)^2 + (y-8)^2 = 10 is such a circle.
then the distance from C to x-3y+8 = 0 is
|a - 3b+8|/√10
then the distance from C to 3x-y=0 is
|3a - b|/√10
so 3a-b = a-3b + 8 or 3a-b = -a + 3b - 8
2a + 2b = 8 or 4a - 4b = -8
a + b = 4 or or a - b = -2
let's use a-b=-2 or b = a+2 , more reasonable from my sketch
also radius = √(a-3)^2 + (b-7)^2
so
(3a-b)/√10 = √(a-3)^2 + (b-7)^2
square both sides:
(3a - b)^2 /10 = (a-3)^2 + (b-7)^2
but b = a+2
((3a - a-2)^2) /10 = (a-3)^2 + (a-5)^2
4a^2 - 8a + 4 = 10(a^2 - 6a + 9 + a^2 - 10a + 25)
4a^2 - 8a + 4 = 20a^2 - 160a + 340
16a^2 - 152a + 336 = 0
2a^2 - 19a + 42 = 0
(a-6)(2a-7) = 0
a = 6 or a = 7/2
b = 8 or b = 11/2
so we have to possible centres (6,8) and (3.5 , 5.5)
each one must be below y = 3x and above x-3y+8=0
or y < 3x and y > (x+8)/3
(a quick arithmetic check shows both are possible)
I will use the (6,8)
so a possible equation is
(x-6)^2 + (y-8)^2 = r^2
but (3,7) lies on it, so
(-3)^2 + (-1)^2 = r^2 = 10
(x-6)^2 + (y-8)^2 = 10 is such a circle.
Answered by
xavier
thank you very much!
Answered by
Steve
the two lines intersect at (1,3)
the two lines have slope 1/3 and 3.
So, the center of the circle lies on the line y=x+2. (why?)
the distance from (h,k) to ax+by+c=0 is
|ah+bk+c|/√(a^2+b^2), so if our circle has center (h,k), its radius is
|h-3k+8|/√10 or |3h-k|/√10
Since k=h+2,
|h-3h-6+8| = |-2h+2|
|3h-(h+2)| = |2h-2|
so the distance to the two lines is the same. (whew)
So, our circle is
(x-h)^2 + (y-(h+2))^2 = (2h-2)^2/10
Now, we know that (3,7) is on the circle, so
(3-h)^2 + (7-h-2)^2 = 4(h-2)^2/10
5(3-h)^2 + 5(5-h)^2 = 2(h-2)^2
45-30h+5h^2 + 125-50h+5h^2 = 2h^2-8h+8
8h^2 - 72h + 162 = 0
4h^2 - 36h + 81 = 0
(2h-9)^2 = 0
h = 9/2
So, the circle is
(x-9/2)^2 + (y-(9/2+2))^2 = (18/2-2)^2/10
(x-9/2)^2 + (y-13/2)^2 = 49/10
the two lines have slope 1/3 and 3.
So, the center of the circle lies on the line y=x+2. (why?)
the distance from (h,k) to ax+by+c=0 is
|ah+bk+c|/√(a^2+b^2), so if our circle has center (h,k), its radius is
|h-3k+8|/√10 or |3h-k|/√10
Since k=h+2,
|h-3h-6+8| = |-2h+2|
|3h-(h+2)| = |2h-2|
so the distance to the two lines is the same. (whew)
So, our circle is
(x-h)^2 + (y-(h+2))^2 = (2h-2)^2/10
Now, we know that (3,7) is on the circle, so
(3-h)^2 + (7-h-2)^2 = 4(h-2)^2/10
5(3-h)^2 + 5(5-h)^2 = 2(h-2)^2
45-30h+5h^2 + 125-50h+5h^2 = 2h^2-8h+8
8h^2 - 72h + 162 = 0
4h^2 - 36h + 81 = 0
(2h-9)^2 = 0
h = 9/2
So, the circle is
(x-9/2)^2 + (y-(9/2+2))^2 = (18/2-2)^2/10
(x-9/2)^2 + (y-13/2)^2 = 49/10
Answered by
Steve
Reiny and I took basically the same approach, but we arrived at different circles.
Both are correct, but the point (3,7) lies on opposite sides of the radius to the tangent.
Cool!
Both are correct, but the point (3,7) lies on opposite sides of the radius to the tangent.
Cool!
Answered by
Lea
Are you all using directed distance?
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