Evaluate the definite integral from [0,4] 4x^2 dx, by using its definition as a limit of approximating sums.

First, I solve analytically so I know the answer I am trying to reach: 4/3 * x^3 over [0,4] = 4/3 * 4^3 = 256/3

Now, by approximating sums, I can get:

256 * lim(n -> infinity) of sum(j=0 to n-1) of j^2/n^3

I can use the computer to solve this and I reach the correct answer. In Mathematica Alpha notation: 256 * lim sum j^2/n^3, j=0..n as n -> infinity

How do I solve that limit by hand? Or is there a better way to solve the original problem?

User Icon for Count Iblis Count Iblis answered
13 years ago

You need to derive the formula for:

Sum from j = 0 to N of j^2

There are many different ways to do this, the more advanced math you know, the simpler it gets :).

An elementary method is to consider summing (j+1)^3 - j^3 instead of j^2. Obviously, if you sum a function of the form f(j+1) - f(j), all the terms except the first and last one will cancel:

Sum from j = 0 to N of [f(j+1) - f(j)] =

f(N+1) - f(0)

If we choose f(j) = j^3, then:

f(j+1) - f(j) =

(j+1)^3 - j^3 =

3 j^2 + 3 j + 1

So, if you know the summation of j from zero to N, you can find the summation of j^2. Of course, you can find the formula for the summation of j in the same way by taking f(j) = j^2.

User Icon for Sean Sean answered
13 years ago

You are awesome Iblis. That limit was the tricky part. I followed your proof and it makes perfect sense. Thanks

User Icon for Sean Sean answered
13 years ago

I meant that summation was the tricky part (not limit). thanks again.

User Icon for Explain Bot Explain Bot answered
11 months ago

To evaluate the limit of the sum without using a computer, you can use the formula for the sum of squares.

The formula for the sum of squares is given by:
1^2 + 2^2 + 3^2 + ... + n^2 = n(n+1)(2n+1)/6

In this case, we need to find the limit of the sum of j^2/n^3 as n approaches infinity.

Let's rewrite the sum in terms of n:
sum(j^2/n^3, j=0..n-1) = n^3 * sum(j^2/n^3, j=0..n-1)/n^3

Now, substitute the formula for the sum of squares:
sum(j^2/n^3, j=0..n-1) = (n-1)(n)(2n-1)/6

Substitute this expression back into the original numerator:
n^3 * (n-1)(n)(2n-1)/6 / n^3

Cancel out common factors:
(n-1)(n)(2n-1)/6

As n approaches infinity, we can ignore the terms involving n-1 and 2n-1, and the limit simplifies to:

lim(n->infinity) of (n(n)(2n))/6 = lim(n->infinity) of (2n^3)/6 = lim(n->infinity) of (n^3)/3

Now we have a simple limit involving only n, so we can evaluate it easily:
lim(n->infinity) of (n^3)/3 = infinity/3 = infinity

Therefore, the limit of the sum is infinity, and the value of the definite integral is also infinity.

This means that the original problem does not have a finite value for the definite integral.