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A mass m at the end of a spring vibrates with a frequency of 0.93 Hz. When an additional 607 g mass is added to m, the frequenc...Asked by Cindy
A mass m at the end of a spring vibrates with a frequency of 0.92 Hz. When an additional 600 g mass is added to m, the frequency is 0.64 Hz. What is the value of m?
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Answered by
drwls
Start with the relation
f = [1/(2 pi)]sqrt(m/k)
The spring constant k remains constant
Since the frequency decreases by a factor of 1.4375, the mass must have increased by a factor 1.4375^2, which is 2.0664
Let M be the original mass that gave the 0.92 Hz frequency.
(M + 600)/600 = 2.0664
M/600 = 1.064
M = 638 g
You could also have solved this with two simultaneous equations and algebra, but this way is easier
f = [1/(2 pi)]sqrt(m/k)
The spring constant k remains constant
Since the frequency decreases by a factor of 1.4375, the mass must have increased by a factor 1.4375^2, which is 2.0664
Let M be the original mass that gave the 0.92 Hz frequency.
(M + 600)/600 = 2.0664
M/600 = 1.064
M = 638 g
You could also have solved this with two simultaneous equations and algebra, but this way is easier
Answered by
Cindy
that's not right, I think I'm gonna have to use 2 equations but i'm not sure how to do it.
Answered by
drwls
I was careless and should have written
f = [1/(2 pi)] sqrt(k/m), but the following logic and final number I believe to be correct.
f = [1/(2 pi)] sqrt(k/m), but the following logic and final number I believe to be correct.
Answered by
Cindy
hmm Its not working out. this isnt the actual problem but one of the practice ones (online homework) but i keep trying this method with different numbers and they aren't working out. Do you know how to explain the way to do it with 2 equations?
Answered by
drwls
0.92 = [1/(2 pi)] sqrt(k/m)
0.64 = [1/(2 pi)] sqrt[k/(m+0.6)],
where 0.6 is the added mass in kg.
Now divide the first equation by the second, to get rid of the unknown k
1.4375 = sqrt [(m + 0.6)/m]
2.0664 = (m + 0.6)/m = 1 + 0.6/m
1.0664 = 0.6/m
m = 0.563 kg
I made an algebraic mistake intitally, and should have written
(M + 600)/M = 2.0664
I was working with M in grams, which is OK when dealing with ratios, but I had the wrong denominator in the last equation.
So I not only wrote the original k/m ratio upside down, but also later made an algebraic error. I regret both errors and the confusion it caused you. I should have been more careful
0.64 = [1/(2 pi)] sqrt[k/(m+0.6)],
where 0.6 is the added mass in kg.
Now divide the first equation by the second, to get rid of the unknown k
1.4375 = sqrt [(m + 0.6)/m]
2.0664 = (m + 0.6)/m = 1 + 0.6/m
1.0664 = 0.6/m
m = 0.563 kg
I made an algebraic mistake intitally, and should have written
(M + 600)/M = 2.0664
I was working with M in grams, which is OK when dealing with ratios, but I had the wrong denominator in the last equation.
So I not only wrote the original k/m ratio upside down, but also later made an algebraic error. I regret both errors and the confusion it caused you. I should have been more careful
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