Asked by Brian
                what kind of intermolec forces are in  NH4Cl
i thought it was london dispersion, dipole dipole, and hydrogen bonding
and nottttt ionic.
what am i doing wrong?
            
        i thought it was london dispersion, dipole dipole, and hydrogen bonding
and nottttt ionic.
what am i doing wrong?
Answers
                    Answered by
            drwls
            
    The bond between NH4+ and Cl- is ionic.
That is the bond that breaks in solution, when the compound forms two ions.
The bonds between N and H are probably covalent, and do not break easily.
    
That is the bond that breaks in solution, when the compound forms two ions.
The bonds between N and H are probably covalent, and do not break easily.
                    Answered by
            Brian
            
    so you mean H-N is not a hydrogen bond?
and it is an ionic
so the list would be
Dispersion
H bond
dipole dipole?
    
and it is an ionic
so the list would be
Dispersion
H bond
dipole dipole?
                    Answered by
            drwls
            
    Hydrogen bonds, as I understand them, are weak attractive forces between hydrogen atomsin adjacent molecules of a liquid. Dipole-dipole bonds are also weak attractive forces between molecules that occasionally stick together. I have nothing else to add to my previous answer. 
    
                    Answered by
            DrBob222
            
    DrWLS is correct. While you have H-N bonds, per se, they are not, by definition, hydrogen bonds. You do have attraction between the NH4^+  and the Cl^- ions in solution. The NH4^+ is not a dipole and it has no dipole moment although each of the N-H bonds are polar. That isn't a contradiction because to have a net dipole moment the ion/molecule must have polar bonds (which NH4^+ has) AND not be symmetrical (in space that is). The NH4^+  is symmetrical so each of the N-H bond's polarity cancels and there is no NET dipole for the ion. 
    
                    Answered by
            Dr Russ
            
    "Hydrogen bonds, as I understand them, are weak attractive forces between hydrogen atomsin adjacent molecules of a liquid."  Not between hydrogen atoms, but between a hydrogen atom and an electronegative atom such as O, N or F.
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_bond
    
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_bond
                    Answered by
            drwls
            
    Thank you for the clarification. They are relatively weak bonds between hydrogen and another atom in a different molecule. I was confused because I had heard about the hydrogen bond between water molecules. Such bonds do not occur within NH4Cl molecules
    
                    Answered by
            DrBob222
            
    And I didn't pay attention to ALL that Bill wrote; I just read to the H atom part and stopped reading. Thanks to Dr Russ for setting it right. 
    
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