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A youngster shoots a bottle cap up a 15.0° inclined board at 1.92 m/s. The cap slides in a straight line, slowing to 0.95 m/s a...Asked by Lindsay
A youngster shoots a bottle cap up a 15.0° inclined board at 1.92 m/s. The cap slides in a straight line, slowing to 0.95 m/s after traveling some distance. If the coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.35, find that distance.
So I get that (1/2)MV^2 = MgX*sin 15 + Mg*muk*cos 15*X, but what is V, in this case?
So I get that (1/2)MV^2 = MgX*sin 15 + Mg*muk*cos 15*X, but what is V, in this case?
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Answered by
Damon
Oh ! Hey you have friction here and are losing energy to heat. You are not allowed to use kinetic energy goes to potential energy if there are frictional losses in the problem. You have to use force equals mass times acceleration here.
Answered by
Damon
call mass of cap = M
then gravity gives a weight, M g = 9.8 M
That 9.8M has a component down the ramp of
9.8 M sin 15 = 2.33 M
and it has normal component on the ramp of
9.8 M cos 15 = 9.47 M
with the friction coef of .35 we have a retarding frictional force down the ramp of
.35*9.47 M = 3.31 M
Both forces are down the ramp so the total force stopping the bottle cap is F = - (2.33+3.31)M - 5.64 M is positive is up the ramp
so get the acceleration
a = F/M = -5.64 M / M
a = - 5.64 m/s^2
Now:
we have initial speed up the ramp, vo = +1.92 m/s
and a = - 5.64 m/s^2
so
v = 1.92 - 5.64 t
when it stops v = 0
0 = 1.92 - 5.64 t
solve for t, the time to stop. Then get distance from
x = 0 + vo t -(1/2)(5.64) t^2
then gravity gives a weight, M g = 9.8 M
That 9.8M has a component down the ramp of
9.8 M sin 15 = 2.33 M
and it has normal component on the ramp of
9.8 M cos 15 = 9.47 M
with the friction coef of .35 we have a retarding frictional force down the ramp of
.35*9.47 M = 3.31 M
Both forces are down the ramp so the total force stopping the bottle cap is F = - (2.33+3.31)M - 5.64 M is positive is up the ramp
so get the acceleration
a = F/M = -5.64 M / M
a = - 5.64 m/s^2
Now:
we have initial speed up the ramp, vo = +1.92 m/s
and a = - 5.64 m/s^2
so
v = 1.92 - 5.64 t
when it stops v = 0
0 = 1.92 - 5.64 t
solve for t, the time to stop. Then get distance from
x = 0 + vo t -(1/2)(5.64) t^2
Answered by
drwls
V is 1.92 m/s, the initial velocity.
That looks like an equation I gave you earlier. I believe it is valid because it allows conversion of initial kinetic energy into both heat and gravitational potential. See is you get the same answer that way as by Damon's method.
That looks like an equation I gave you earlier. I believe it is valid because it allows conversion of initial kinetic energy into both heat and gravitational potential. See is you get the same answer that way as by Damon's method.
Answered by
Damon
Bet it goes a lot higher your way :)
Answered by
Damon
OIC - I take that back. I did not see that you had included the work done by friction.
Answered by
Lindsay
I keep getting 0.315 m, but that's not right. What am I doing wrong?
Answered by
Damon
Well I got .3268
from
t=1.92/5.64
=.3404
and
x = 1.92(.3404) - (5.64)(.5)(.3404)^2
from
t=1.92/5.64
=.3404
and
x = 1.92(.3404) - (5.64)(.5)(.3404)^2
Answered by
Damon
Nope. I made a calculator error. I agree with your .315 meters
Answered by
Damon
Redoing it with calculation typo fixed:
call mass of cap = M
then gravity gives a weight, M g = 9.8 M
That 9.8M has a component down the ramp of
9.8 M sin 15 = 2.53 M [TYPO WAS HERE]
and it has normal component on the ramp of
9.8 M cos 15 = 9.47 M
with the friction coef of .35 we have a retarding frictional force down the ramp of
.35*9.47 M = 3.31 M
Both forces are down the ramp so the total force stopping the bottle cap is F = - (2.53+3.31)M - 5.85 M is positive is up the ramp
so get the acceleration
a = F/M = -5.85 M / M
a = - 5.85 m/s^2
Now:
we have initial speed up the ramp, vo = +1.92 m/s
and a = - 5.64 m/s^2
so
v = 1.92 - 5.85 t
when it stops v = 0
0 = 1.92 - 5.85 t
t = .328 seconds
Then get distance from
x = 0 + vo t -(1/2)(5.85) t^2
x = 1.92 (.328) - 2.93 .328^2
x = .630 - .315
x = .315
and I get the same thing the way Dr WLS did it.
call mass of cap = M
then gravity gives a weight, M g = 9.8 M
That 9.8M has a component down the ramp of
9.8 M sin 15 = 2.53 M [TYPO WAS HERE]
and it has normal component on the ramp of
9.8 M cos 15 = 9.47 M
with the friction coef of .35 we have a retarding frictional force down the ramp of
.35*9.47 M = 3.31 M
Both forces are down the ramp so the total force stopping the bottle cap is F = - (2.53+3.31)M - 5.85 M is positive is up the ramp
so get the acceleration
a = F/M = -5.85 M / M
a = - 5.85 m/s^2
Now:
we have initial speed up the ramp, vo = +1.92 m/s
and a = - 5.64 m/s^2
so
v = 1.92 - 5.85 t
when it stops v = 0
0 = 1.92 - 5.85 t
t = .328 seconds
Then get distance from
x = 0 + vo t -(1/2)(5.85) t^2
x = 1.92 (.328) - 2.93 .328^2
x = .630 - .315
x = .315
and I get the same thing the way Dr WLS did it.
Answered by
Damon
Redoing it with calculation typo fixed:
call mass of cap = M
then gravity gives a weight, M g = 9.8 M
That 9.8M has a component down the ramp of
9.8 M sin 15 = 2.53 M [TYPO WAS HERE]
and it has normal component on the ramp of
9.8 M cos 15 = 9.47 M
with the friction coef of .35 we have a retarding frictional force down the ramp of
.35*9.47 M = 3.31 M
Both forces are down the ramp so the total force stopping the bottle cap is F = - (2.53+3.31)M - 5.85 M is positive is up the ramp
so get the acceleration
a = F/M = -5.85 M / M
a = - 5.85 m/s^2
Now:
we have initial speed up the ramp, vo = +1.92 m/s
and a = - 5.64 m/s^2
so
v = 1.92 - 5.85 t
when it stops v = 0
0 = 1.92 - 5.85 t
t = .328 seconds
Then get distance from
x = 0 + vo t -(1/2)(5.85) t^2
x = 1.92 (.328) - 2.93 .328^2
x = .630 - .315
x = .315
and I get the same thing the way Dr WLS did it.
call mass of cap = M
then gravity gives a weight, M g = 9.8 M
That 9.8M has a component down the ramp of
9.8 M sin 15 = 2.53 M [TYPO WAS HERE]
and it has normal component on the ramp of
9.8 M cos 15 = 9.47 M
with the friction coef of .35 we have a retarding frictional force down the ramp of
.35*9.47 M = 3.31 M
Both forces are down the ramp so the total force stopping the bottle cap is F = - (2.53+3.31)M - 5.85 M is positive is up the ramp
so get the acceleration
a = F/M = -5.85 M / M
a = - 5.85 m/s^2
Now:
we have initial speed up the ramp, vo = +1.92 m/s
and a = - 5.64 m/s^2
so
v = 1.92 - 5.85 t
when it stops v = 0
0 = 1.92 - 5.85 t
t = .328 seconds
Then get distance from
x = 0 + vo t -(1/2)(5.85) t^2
x = 1.92 (.328) - 2.93 .328^2
x = .630 - .315
x = .315
and I get the same thing the way Dr WLS did it.
Answered by
Lindsay
I've entered this into the computer, but it says it's not right. Hmmmm...
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