Let's solve the equations step by step.
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Start with the first equation:
\[ 4b + 15 + 8 = -13 \]
Combine like terms on the left side:
\[ 4b + 23 = -13 \]
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Next, we subtract 23 from both sides to isolate the term with \( b \):
\[ 4b + 23 - 23 = -13 - 23 \]
This simplifies to:
\[ 4b = -36 \]
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Now, divide both sides by 4 to solve for \( b \):
\[ b = \frac{-36}{4} \]
This simplifies to:
\[ b = -9 \]
So, the solution is:
\[ b = -9 \]