Asked by jessica
does anyone know how to approximate the are and circumfrence of the region bounded by the given curves
y=cos(x^2 +(100493/100000)), y=1+x-X^2
y=cos(x^2 +(100493/100000)), y=1+x-X^2
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Answered by
MathMate
The two curves intersect at
-0.4425 and 1.8018.
By integrating (numerically)
f(x)=cos(x^2 +(100493/100000)) - (1+x-x^2)
between the two roots, you would get the area as 1.99326.
The perimeter can be obtained by integrating the curve length of the separate curves between the same limits.
See for arc-length:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arc_length
-0.4425 and 1.8018.
By integrating (numerically)
f(x)=cos(x^2 +(100493/100000)) - (1+x-x^2)
between the two roots, you would get the area as 1.99326.
The perimeter can be obtained by integrating the curve length of the separate curves between the same limits.
See for arc-length:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arc_length
Answered by
MathMate
For graph of function, see:
http://img20.imageshack.us/i/1297900781.png/
http://img20.imageshack.us/i/1297900781.png/
Answered by
jessica
Thank you very much but i am still confused with the arc length or the circumference
Answered by
MathMate
To find the curve length, we only need to integrate ds (incremental distance) between the given limits.
The expression of ds is basically the slant distance obtained by sqrt(dx²+dy²), so the integral is:
∫sqrt(1+(dy/dx)²dx
It gets a little messy unless the function is a polynomial, but calculating using numerical integration is rather easy, even for complicated functions.
For the cosine part of the function, the derivative should be done using the chain rule, and you should get:
dy/dx = -sin(x^2 +(100493/100000)) * 2x
Apply the integral above and integrate from -0.44 to 1.8 (approx.) to get about 3.4 as the arc length.
Check: Δx = 1.8-(-0.44)=2.24
3.4/2.24=1.5 approx. which is about sec(45°).
If you have other questions, just post.
The expression of ds is basically the slant distance obtained by sqrt(dx²+dy²), so the integral is:
∫sqrt(1+(dy/dx)²dx
It gets a little messy unless the function is a polynomial, but calculating using numerical integration is rather easy, even for complicated functions.
For the cosine part of the function, the derivative should be done using the chain rule, and you should get:
dy/dx = -sin(x^2 +(100493/100000)) * 2x
Apply the integral above and integrate from -0.44 to 1.8 (approx.) to get about 3.4 as the arc length.
Check: Δx = 1.8-(-0.44)=2.24
3.4/2.24=1.5 approx. which is about sec(45°).
If you have other questions, just post.
Answered by
jessica
i understand but i just don't know how to plug it in wxmaxima is it possible if you can show me
thanks very much
thanks very much
Answered by
MathMate
Define a function f(x) (to find arc-length)
f(x):=......
Find its derivative:
diff(f(x),x)
Copy and paste the result and assign it to another function, say f1(x):
f1(x):=....paste....
Go to the Calculus/integrate function.
For the integrand, input:
sqrt(1+f1(x)^2)
Input the limits of integration.
check the 'numerical integration' box.
leave the method as default, Romberg or the other one will both work. Best is try both and compare. This will give you an idea of the accuracy.
Click OK and wait.
Post if you could use further help.
f(x):=......
Find its derivative:
diff(f(x),x)
Copy and paste the result and assign it to another function, say f1(x):
f1(x):=....paste....
Go to the Calculus/integrate function.
For the integrand, input:
sqrt(1+f1(x)^2)
Input the limits of integration.
check the 'numerical integration' box.
leave the method as default, Romberg or the other one will both work. Best is try both and compare. This will give you an idea of the accuracy.
Click OK and wait.
Post if you could use further help.
Answered by
jessica
okay so for the first f(x) i plug in cos(x^2 +(100493/100000))find the derivative then do i do the same for y=y=1+x-X^2 ?
Answered by
MathMate
Exactly! Repeat all the steps for the polynomial.
Since the two functions are to be integrated within the same interval, you are better off doing them separately.
Since the two functions are to be integrated within the same interval, you are better off doing them separately.
Answered by
jessica
okay so i put y=1+x-X^2 found the derivative 1-2*x then i pluged that in into sqrt(1+1-2*x)^2) then i did the romberg thing so is this right i got -1.4336 for this one
Answered by
jessica
WEll THANKSSSS ALOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!
Answered by
MathMate
Did your length for the cos function match mine at about 3.4?
Glad that everything worked out!
À la prochaine!
Glad that everything worked out!
À la prochaine!
Answered by
MathMate
Oops, I don't think -1.4 is right for the polynomial.
Did you use sqrt(1+(dy/dx)^2)?
Your expression sqrt(1+1-2*x)^2) has a missing parenthesis.
I got 2.29 for the polynomial, and 3.4 for the cos function.
Did you use sqrt(1+(dy/dx)^2)?
Your expression sqrt(1+1-2*x)^2) has a missing parenthesis.
I got 2.29 for the polynomial, and 3.4 for the cos function.
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