If Sally can paint a house in 4 hours, and John can paint the same house in 6 hour, how long will it take for both of them to paint the house together?

This the ans 2 hours and 24 minutes but how did they work it out?

User Icon for tchrwill tchrwill answered
13 years ago

Sally's rate = 1 house/4 hrs

John's rate is 1 house/6 hrs

Their combined rate of painting is 1/4 + 1/6 = 10/24 houses per hour

The time it takes both of them to paint one house is therefore

1 house/(10/24) houses per hour = 2.4 hours.

More generally:

If it takes one person 5 hours to paint a room and another person 3 hours, how long will it take to paint the room working together?

Method 1:

1--A can paint a room in 5 hours.
2--B can paint a room in 3 hours.
3--A's rate of painting is 1 room per A hours (5 hours) or 1/A (1/5) room/hour.
4--B's rate of painting is 1 room per B hours (3 hours) or 1/B (1/3) room/hour.
5--Their combined rate of painting is therefore 1/A + 1/B = (A+B)/AB = (1/5 + 1/3) = (8/15) rooms /hour.
6--Therefore, the time required for both of them to paint the 1 room working together is 1 room/(A+B)/AB rooms/hour = AB/(A+B) = 5(3)/(5+3) = 15/8 hours = 1 hour-52.5 minutes.

Note - Generally speaking (if the derivation is not specifically required), if it takes one person A units of time and another person B units of time to complete a specific task working alone, the time it takes them both to complete the task working together is T = AB/(A + B), where AB/(A + B) is one half the harmonic mean of the individual times, A and B.

You might like to derive the equivalant expression involving 3 people working alone and together which results in T = ABC/(AB + AC + BC).

Method 2:

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1--Let c represent the area of the house to be painted.
2--Let A = the number of hours it takes A to paint the house.
3--Let B = the number of hours it takes B to paint the house.
4--A and B start painting at the same point but proceed in opposite directions around the house.
5--Eventually they meet in x hours, each having painted an area proportional to their individual painting rates.
6--A will have painted y square feet and B will have painted (c-y) square feet.
7--From the figure, A/c = x/y or Ay = cx.
8--Similarly, B/c = x/(c-y) or by = bc - cx.
9--From 7 & 8, y = cx/a = (bc - cx)/b from which x = AB/(A+B), one half of the harmonic mean of A and B.

I think this should give you enough of a clue as to how to solve future problems.

Three People Version

It takes Al 5 hours to paint a shed, Ben 10 hours and Charlie 15 hours. How long would it take all three to paint the shed working together?

1--A can paint the shed in 5 hours.
2--B can paint the shed in 10 hours.
3--C can paint the shed in 15 hours.
4--A's rate of painting is 1 shed per A hours (5 hours) or 1/A (1/5) shed/hour.
5--B's rate of painting is 1 shed per B hours (10 hours) or 1/B (1/10) shed/hour.
6--C's rate of painting is 1 shed per C hours (15 hours) or 1/C (1/15 shed/hour.
7--Their combined rate of painting is therefore 1/A + 1/B + 1/C = (AC + BC + AB)/ABC = (1/5 + 1/10 + 1/15) = (11/30 sheds /hour.
8--Therefore, the time required for all of them to paint the 1 shed working together is 1 shed/(AC+BC+AB)/ABC sheds/hour = ABC/(AC+BC+AB) = 5(10)15/[5(15)+10(15)+5(10) = 30/11 hours = 2.7272 hours = 2hr-43min-38.18sec.

Note - The time required to complete a single "specific task" by three individuals working together, who can complete the task individually in A, B, and C units of time is ABC/(AC + BC + AB).

User Icon for Explain Bot Explain Bot answered
11 months ago

To determine how long it will take for Sally and John to paint the house together, we can use the concept of work rate.

Let's calculate their individual work rates first:
Sally's work rate is 1 house / 4 hours = 1/4 house per hour.
John's work rate is 1 house / 6 hours = 1/6 house per hour.

When they work together, their work rates are combined as follows:
Their combined work rate is Sally's work rate + John's work rate = 1/4 + 1/6 = 3/12 + 2/12 = 5/12 house per hour.

Now, to find out how long it takes for them to paint the house together, we can set up a ratio involving their work rates:
Sally and John complete 1 house in (5/12) hours.

To convert this fraction into hours and minutes, we can multiply by 60:
(5/12) * 60 = 300/12 = 25 minutes.

So, it will take Sally and John a total of 2 hours and 25 minutes to paint the house together.