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To solve for \( r \) in the equation
\[
-4 = \frac{r}{20} - 5,
\]
follow these steps:
1. Add 5 to both sides of the equation:
\[
-4 + 5 = \frac{r}{20}
\]
This simplifies to:
\[
1 = \frac{r}{20}.
\]
2. Next, multiply both sides by 20 to isolate \( r \):
\[
20 \cdot 1 = r,
\]
which gives:
\[
r = 20.
\]
Thus, the solution is
\[
\boxed{20}.
\]