Question
7.7 mol of helium are in a 16 L cylinder. The pressure gauge on the cylinder reads 65psi. What are (a) the temperature of the gas in Celsius and (b) the average kinetic energy of a helium atom?
p=65psi=4.481592E5
p=65psi=4.42atm
n=7.7mol
v=16=.016m^3
T = PV/(nR) = (4.42*.016)/(7.7*8.31)..not working
or
(4.481592E5*.016)/(7.7*8.31)..also did not work
I was told: "You need to use SI units throughout, i.e., Pascal for pressure. And it requires absolute pressure, not gauge."
So it means i didn't use SI unit
I'm confused
p=65psi=4.481592E5
p=65psi=4.42atm
n=7.7mol
v=16=.016m^3
T = PV/(nR) = (4.42*.016)/(7.7*8.31)..not working
or
(4.481592E5*.016)/(7.7*8.31)..also did not work
I was told: "You need to use SI units throughout, i.e., Pascal for pressure. And it requires absolute pressure, not gauge."
So it means i didn't use SI unit
I'm confused
Answers
jeo
did you try to subtract 273.15? it did want the answer in Celsius not kelvin
ana
T = PV/(nR) =(4.42 * .016) / (7.7 * 8.31) = 0.0011052245
so when (0.0011052245)-(275.15)=-273.14 not working
or
(4.481592E5 * .016) / (7.7 * 8.31) = 112.062563
so when (112.062563)-(273.15)=-161.09 also did not work
so when (0.0011052245)-(275.15)=-273.14 not working
or
(4.481592E5 * .016) / (7.7 * 8.31) = 112.062563
so when (112.062563)-(273.15)=-161.09 also did not work
jeo
um it looks like your having the same issue i had. try using -140 as your answer. my values were the same as yours except i had 7.6 mols and my final answer came out to 20 degrees lower than what i calculated using the same equation u used. masteringphysics go figure
ana
Thanks Joe.
It worked, but don't why is that even though i used the formula( i think i used it correctly).
It worked, but don't why is that even though i used the formula( i think i used it correctly).
ana
so for part b, i have to use KE=3/2kT where k=1.38*10JK^-1
so -140C becomes 133.15K
so (3/2)(1.38*10^-23)(133.15), right?
so -140C becomes 133.15K
so (3/2)(1.38*10^-23)(133.15), right?
ana
I meant
Thanks Joe.
It worked, but don't know why is that even though i used the formula( i think i used it correctly).
Thanks Joe.
It worked, but don't know why is that even though i used the formula( i think i used it correctly).
Anonymous
perhaps wrong gas constant unit. .08206
Corey
almost perfect using the pascals for pressue, but you need to put in into Celcius. the T in PV=nRT is in kelvins... so minus 273 from your original answer with the pascal units of pressure.
Corey
nevermind im having the same issues. this program is worse than HIV
Corey
apparently you need to use absolute psi which is 14.7+gauge pressure.... then convert that into pascals and use PV=nRT...