Asked by Shenaya
Find the greatest value of a,so that
integrate [x*root{(a^2-x^2)/(a^2+x^2)} ] from 0-a<=(π-2)
Let I =integrate{ [x*root{(a^2 - x^2)/(a^2+x^2)}]dx } from 0-a
I used the substitution u=root[x^2+a^] to simplify the further.
After substituting and changing limits I got,
I=integrate.{root(2a^2 - u^2) du } from a-√2a
Then I used the substitution (u/2a)=sin t
And after simplifications and changing limits I got,
I=integrate{ √2(a)^2 *2(cos t)^2 dt} from (π/6)-(π/4)
Then finally I got,
I= √2(a)^2[ {(sin 2t)/2} + {t} ] ,limits π/6-π/4
I= √2(a)^2{ [ 1/2 - √3/4 ] + [π/4 - π/6 ]
I=√2(a)^2{ [(2-√3)/4] + [π/12] }
I=√2(a)^2{ [6-3√3+π]/12 }
But I get the feeling that I've made a mistake somewhere,because I don't see any way to simply this further so that it can be compared with (π-2) to find the largest value of a.But can't find where I've made the mistake..
integrate [x*root{(a^2-x^2)/(a^2+x^2)} ] from 0-a<=(π-2)
Let I =integrate{ [x*root{(a^2 - x^2)/(a^2+x^2)}]dx } from 0-a
I used the substitution u=root[x^2+a^] to simplify the further.
After substituting and changing limits I got,
I=integrate.{root(2a^2 - u^2) du } from a-√2a
Then I used the substitution (u/2a)=sin t
And after simplifications and changing limits I got,
I=integrate{ √2(a)^2 *2(cos t)^2 dt} from (π/6)-(π/4)
Then finally I got,
I= √2(a)^2[ {(sin 2t)/2} + {t} ] ,limits π/6-π/4
I= √2(a)^2{ [ 1/2 - √3/4 ] + [π/4 - π/6 ]
I=√2(a)^2{ [(2-√3)/4] + [π/12] }
I=√2(a)^2{ [6-3√3+π]/12 }
But I get the feeling that I've made a mistake somewhere,because I don't see any way to simply this further so that it can be compared with (π-2) to find the largest value of a.But can't find where I've made the mistake..
Answers
Answered by
Steve
well, just looking at the calculations, they appear reasonable, so at the end you have
√2 a^2 [6-3√3+π]/12 <= π-2
a^2 <= 12(π-2)/(√2 [6-3√3+π])
|a| <= √(12(π-2)/(√2 [6-3√3+π])) = 1.567
√2 a^2 [6-3√3+π]/12 <= π-2
a^2 <= 12(π-2)/(√2 [6-3√3+π])
|a| <= √(12(π-2)/(√2 [6-3√3+π])) = 1.567
Answered by
Shenaya
Did you find any mistakes in my calculations?
I thought they were expecting a whole number!
I thought they were expecting a whole number!
Answered by
Steve
Ok, let me check on that
u^2 = x^2+a^2
2u du = 2x dx
a^2-x^2 = 2a^2-u^2
and now
∫[0,a] x√((a^2-x^2)/(a^2+x^2)) dx
= ∫[a,a√2] 1/u √(2a^2-u^2) du
You seem to have lost the factor of 1/u
Now let
u=√2 a sint
2a^2-u^2 = 2a^2-2a^2sin^2t = 2a^2 cos^2t
du = √2 a cost dt
and the integral is now
∫[a,a√2]1/u √(2a^2-u^2) du
=∫[π/6,π/4] 1/(√2 a sint)*√2 a cost * √2 a cost dt
You seem to have lost your du->dt conversion
= ∫[π/6,π/4] √2 a sint cos^2t dt
= -a√2/3 cos^3t [π/6,π/4]
= -a√2/3 ((1/√2)^3-(√3/2)^3)
= -a√2/3 (1/(2√2)-3√3/8)
= a/3 (3√6-4)
Still not an integer!
As always, double-check my math...
u^2 = x^2+a^2
2u du = 2x dx
a^2-x^2 = 2a^2-u^2
and now
∫[0,a] x√((a^2-x^2)/(a^2+x^2)) dx
= ∫[a,a√2] 1/u √(2a^2-u^2) du
You seem to have lost the factor of 1/u
Now let
u=√2 a sint
2a^2-u^2 = 2a^2-2a^2sin^2t = 2a^2 cos^2t
du = √2 a cost dt
and the integral is now
∫[a,a√2]1/u √(2a^2-u^2) du
=∫[π/6,π/4] 1/(√2 a sint)*√2 a cost * √2 a cost dt
You seem to have lost your du->dt conversion
= ∫[π/6,π/4] √2 a sint cos^2t dt
= -a√2/3 cos^3t [π/6,π/4]
= -a√2/3 ((1/√2)^3-(√3/2)^3)
= -a√2/3 (1/(2√2)-3√3/8)
= a/3 (3√6-4)
Still not an integer!
As always, double-check my math...
Answered by
Steve
Oops. I see a big one! That 1/u factor makes it
∫[π/6,π/4] √2 a cos^2t/sint dt
a√2 ∫[π/6,π/4] (1-sin^2t)/sint dt
a√2 ∫[π/6,π/4] csct-sint dt
a√2 (-ln(csc t + cot t) + cost) [π/6,π/4]
= a√2 (-ln(√2+1)+1/√2)-(-ln(2/√3 + √3)+√3/2))
= a√2 (1/√2+√3/2 + ln(5/(√3+√6)))
<i>Still</i> nowhere near an integer.
∫[π/6,π/4] √2 a cos^2t/sint dt
a√2 ∫[π/6,π/4] (1-sin^2t)/sint dt
a√2 ∫[π/6,π/4] csct-sint dt
a√2 (-ln(csc t + cot t) + cost) [π/6,π/4]
= a√2 (-ln(√2+1)+1/√2)-(-ln(2/√3 + √3)+√3/2))
= a√2 (1/√2+√3/2 + ln(5/(√3+√6)))
<i>Still</i> nowhere near an integer.
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